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Yes any iOS to MIDI adapter should work.  If you can see the iconnect in a synth app on your device, then you just need to connect the Sprout to the MIDI 'Input' of the iConnect and you should see MIDI on channel 1
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I own a Focusrite Idock iTrack.  Can this be used instead of the iConnectMIDI1?
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Questions / Re: Help with midisprout and snoize on Mac
« Last post by lisamariehaley on May 25, 2018, 08:28:23 PM »
Thank you both!
It was my laptop's USB.. not the sprout device. I took it into get checked out today.
Cheers,
Lisa
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Questions / Re: Help with midisprout and snoize on Mac
« Last post by sam on May 25, 2018, 07:51:06 PM »
The Sprout is the same as any general midi device, if you can see the device in Midi monitor and you are not getting any data then perhaps you have the wrong jack plugged in to the sprout. What midi USB device are you using?
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Questions / Re: Help with midisprout and snoize on Mac
« Last post by Nicola Alexandra Hajdu on May 25, 2018, 12:53:21 PM »
As i don't have an IOS yet (still only on Windows), i might be not much of help but until some of the Mac Users chime in, i will share my thoughts on your dilemma. According to your description it sounds to me like either a failing MIDI-Interface/USB-MIDI Interface OR a failing USB slot.

Firstly, a noticeable number of Users experienced that most no-name USB-MIDI Interfaces don't work with MIDI-Sprout. Unfortunately you have to fetch a branded gear. In my case i can wholeheartedly recommend either NI Komplete Audio 6 or Creative-E-MU X-MIDI 1x1_Tab. Normally the iConnectMIDI1+ should work as well.

Secondly, i assume that you are an experienced User, so it can't be MIDI-Sprout connected with a wrong MIDI-port.

Otherwise if you need certainty then turn off your Macbook & disconnect your USB Hub etc... for 15 Minutes. IF your Macbook's battery is good in reach then take it out for 15 Minutes as well before you get it back & connect everything again. If this didn't help then wait for Sam or Data Garden to respond to you.

Much Love
Nicola
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Questions / Help with midisprout and snoize on Mac
« Last post by lisamariehaley on May 24, 2018, 11:26:52 PM »
I'm using the tutorial on connecting Midisprout to my MacBook air. I've followed along the video, can see my midisprout in snoize, checked all the boxes in snoize to receive data, and the midi sprout lites up when I touch the pads are per tutorial.. But i'm not getting/seeing any data points in snoize. Any suggestions? I'm using high sierra 10.13.4, which I believe is up to date enough. I've unplugged all other peripherals and restarted the computer.. Thank you for any guidance here.
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Development / Re: Future versions of MIDI sprout
« Last post by Nicola Alexandra Hajdu on May 21, 2018, 10:14:01 AM »
Sam already knows my habit, respectively my desire of wanting to build bridges between people & opposing opinions. I wish both parties would continue the development together. Never say no, as we are perceiving a flexible reality, where each individual CAN be a co-creator of the whole adventure called life. So i will remain open-minded & see where it takes us.

In regards development i'm curious of how reliable WiFi & Bluetooth can be, because we are surrounded, furthermore dwelling in a soup of frequencies emitted by all kinds of devices. From my limited logical point of view i guess we can't let go of TENS electrodes. They still remain as a key to the plant's musical soul, if you like. 

The crucial difference is an increased comfort as we won't be bothered by cable salad or limited in range. It would. And it would be cool to dock on several plants the same time to create an Orchestra performed by Mother Nature! :) Another thing i'm wondering is an energy related aspect, ...how are we going to solve it. Do we stick to several workarounds or can that all be solved IN ONE BOX. And if yes, how many batteries are required to maintain a reliable WiFi/Bluetooth for at least one or two hours ?

Rechargeable batteries are required, no doubt but as i'm not a technician by nature, i'm asking amateur questions related to answers too obvious for the specialists. I may be an allrounder but i'm not specialist in electronics. So Sam & everyone, ...feel free to help me out.  :-[

Much Love
Nicola
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Development / Re: Future versions of MIDI sprout
« Last post by sam on May 14, 2018, 12:58:16 PM »
Hello good pelgrim, thank you for all of your support, questions, and feedback!

For 2, the sweet spot changes over time. It all depends on what the plant is 'doing' at any given moment. But I agree that software could be a good solution here, perhaps I could include an auto ranging mode.

Usb
 power and a rechargable battery at a very simple mod, just hit adafruit and get a battery and charger with 5v out and micro USB input. The main reason not to use USB in rechargeable batteries on the product, is shipping since batteries are dangerous.

Uploading code through USB, yeah that would be easy, but I have included the icsp header and it should be easy enough to use a programmer or an Arduino board to flash code on to the chip.

Above all, the midi Sprout is a simple work. It was never intended to do everything for everyone, and while data Garden continues to produce my open source design, I don't think they have any interest in innovating the process, hence why I left working with them. The whole point of Kickstarter is to invest, not travel.

I already have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth versions which are available directly through me for anyone who's interested. I also have multiple plant interfaces if you're trying to use more than one plant in any given time, and those are available direct from me as one-off experimental units.
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Development / Future versions of MIDI sprout
« Last post by pelgrim on May 13, 2018, 11:33:12 AM »
Hi,

since I had my kickstarter MIDI sprout and did some initial recordings, made an fun enclosure and ... shelved it.

2 years later.
I have a big kiwi plant of 2 years old that says hello now to my PC room.
About time I started to be creative with my sprout.
The fun thing about linux: everything stills works, with just a few lines of documentation I made I'm up and running again.

For those who wonder: a kiwi plant is highly active this time of year.

But I came here for another reason: development.
I don't know if there will ever be any updates on the hardware.
If there were, here are 2 of the things I would love to see.

1) power the board by USB.
2) have the option of controlling the knob in software through USB
3) upload alternative code through USB.

Especially 3) is something I would love to see. The enclosure I made is very tight and small,
and completely sealed for esthetic reasons. Since you need to upload new code directly to the chip,
that's no option anymore now for me.

2) is for practical reasons. Sometimes you hit a sweet spot with that know settings for a plant.
After playing around it can be very hard to find that back. In software you can just write the setting down and set it exactly the same again later.
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Questions / Re: Info about MIDI Sprout translation
« Last post by sam on May 08, 2018, 01:05:59 PM »
By default the Sprout puts out notes in a 12 chromatic scale. Many if not most users use some other scaling algorithm either in software or even programmed into the sprout, in order to get the lullaby sounds that you tend to hear.

Notes are sounded only when a change in electrical conductivity is sensed in the plant, the note that is produced is proportional to the difference in conductivity between a Baseline and the measured change event.

As conductivity increases the note will go down in Pitch. Since there are only 49, 66, or 88 notes on a piano keyboard I allow the notes to ' wrap-around ' from the highest to the lowest note. This allows very fine changes in conductivity to be expressed using just a few musical notes. This can be seen when the Sprout oscillates very quickly between a very high and a very low note, showing that it's just at the edge of one of those regions.

There are effectively no plant pulses, rather the constant changing electrical conductivity of the plant is measured many thousands of times per second and changes in that conductivity are detected. I wouldn't say that the plant is putting anything out, it's more like we're listening in.
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