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Offline pelgrim

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Future versions of MIDI sprout
« on: May 13, 2018, 11:33:12 AM »

since I had my kickstarter MIDI sprout and did some initial recordings, made an fun enclosure and ... shelved it.

2 years later.
I have a big kiwi plant of 2 years old that says hello now to my PC room.
About time I started to be creative with my sprout.
The fun thing about linux: everything stills works, with just a few lines of documentation I made I'm up and running again.

For those who wonder: a kiwi plant is highly active this time of year.

But I came here for another reason: development.
I don't know if there will ever be any updates on the hardware.
If there were, here are 2 of the things I would love to see.

1) power the board by USB.
2) have the option of controlling the knob in software through USB
3) upload alternative code through USB.

Especially 3) is something I would love to see. The enclosure I made is very tight and small,
and completely sealed for esthetic reasons. Since you need to upload new code directly to the chip,
that's no option anymore now for me.

2) is for practical reasons. Sometimes you hit a sweet spot with that know settings for a plant.
After playing around it can be very hard to find that back. In software you can just write the setting down and set it exactly the same again later.

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Re: Future versions of MIDI sprout
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2018, 12:58:16 PM »
Hello good pelgrim, thank you for all of your support, questions, and feedback!

For 2, the sweet spot changes over time. It all depends on what the plant is 'doing' at any given moment. But I agree that software could be a good solution here, perhaps I could include an auto ranging mode.

 power and a rechargable battery at a very simple mod, just hit adafruit and get a battery and charger with 5v out and micro USB input. The main reason not to use USB in rechargeable batteries on the product, is shipping since batteries are dangerous.

Uploading code through USB, yeah that would be easy, but I have included the icsp header and it should be easy enough to use a programmer or an Arduino board to flash code on to the chip.

Above all, the midi Sprout is a simple work. It was never intended to do everything for everyone, and while data Garden continues to produce my open source design, I don't think they have any interest in innovating the process, hence why I left working with them. The whole point of Kickstarter is to invest, not travel.

I already have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth versions which are available directly through me for anyone who's interested. I also have multiple plant interfaces if you're trying to use more than one plant in any given time, and those are available direct from me as one-off experimental units.

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Re: Future versions of MIDI sprout
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 10:14:01 AM »
Sam already knows my habit, respectively my desire of wanting to build bridges between people & opposing opinions. I wish both parties would continue the development together. Never say no, as we are perceiving a flexible reality, where each individual CAN be a co-creator of the whole adventure called life. So i will remain open-minded & see where it takes us.

In regards development i'm curious of how reliable WiFi & Bluetooth can be, because we are surrounded, furthermore dwelling in a soup of frequencies emitted by all kinds of devices. From my limited logical point of view i guess we can't let go of TENS electrodes. They still remain as a key to the plant's musical soul, if you like. 

The crucial difference is an increased comfort as we won't be bothered by cable salad or limited in range. It would. And it would be cool to dock on several plants the same time to create an Orchestra performed by Mother Nature! :) Another thing i'm wondering is an energy related aspect, ...how are we going to solve it. Do we stick to several workarounds or can that all be solved IN ONE BOX. And if yes, how many batteries are required to maintain a reliable WiFi/Bluetooth for at least one or two hours ?

Rechargeable batteries are required, no doubt but as i'm not a technician by nature, i'm asking amateur questions related to answers too obvious for the specialists. I may be an allrounder but i'm not specialist in electronics. So Sam & everyone, ...feel free to help me out.  :-[

Much Love
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 10:29:47 AM by Nicola Alexandra Hajdu »