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Offline Nicola Alexandra Hajdu

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I adore your paintings on your sprout. I may have inherited drawing skills from my Mother but i wouldn't dare to paint my sprout, so i accept it's plain & simple look as it is, after the motto you can not estimate the real value of an object by observing/judging it's cover.  :-[ :) So be it.

In regards your calling about us explaining our solutions of how we change velocity & harmonics for MIDI-Sprout in our favourite DAW, ...well i may not have a  deep connection & experience with Ableton Live but i gave hints about how to achieve changes within Propellerhead's Reason rack.

When you go on Youtube & Twitter i have a couple of examples with MIDI-Sprout, either in conjunction with Propellerhead Reason or with two mobile solutions dedicated to Android Users (Caustic 3 & FL Mobile Studio) . In Caustic 3 it is easy to change scales & you can also setup your own scales.

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Nicola

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Thanks Nicola, I saw your video with Caustic 3, seems like a good solution for Android, i wasn't able to get it to function without purchasing, maybe its my troublesome Chinese tablet! so i am going to stick with Ableton for serious sound work and use the Sprout IOS app for quick access for now, i would love to hear some music that you have made with it to get an idea of the voices available with Caustic. the scaling function is vital when considering any mobile apps i feel. I have been using N-track with the Damanhur plant machine as it records over 2 audio tracks with midi at the same time, essential for playing guitar/synth  with the plant, but sadly it has no scaling function for the sprout.I am assuming that Reason also is lacking with this? please post a link to your video on it.
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Hi desertskymc!

This is the closest that i can offer as video evidence. I didn't record another one yet to support this topic further. Unfortunately Auto-Arp isn't available anymore for purchase because of the developer's deadly accident a few years ago but there are a couple of other scales mapping choices with & for the Reason platform. The closest solution is Auto Theory: https://shop.propellerheads.se/rack-extension/autotheory.

Looks like there are insightful discussions happening on KVR. The thread has also something for FL users who have wondered about an inbuilt scaling feature in FL studio, which of course is missing in Reason as "inhouse"-feature: https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7064088. Thankfully Propellerhead's Rack Extension format compensates that through 3rd party developers.



In regards Caustic, my main purpose to purchase Caustic 3 was to loose carry weight while on hiking. It serves my purpose as a mobile studio, as it has scales, velocity, a piano roll & a couple of devices & effects, which help me to create basic patches too. You can not expect extreme complex patches & even so, think about CPU usage, which is the TOP priority on road.

So basically, i stick to the - capture midi from plants agenda - & then create more complex soundscapes in the Reason rack at home, for the imported midi content. Of course, i could & might consider to make use of Caustic's sound (export/import wave) & then flourish the sound's character by a chain of effects mounted inside an Audio track device. The options are endless, we never run out of ideas, can we ? ;)

Much Love
Nicola

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Thanks for this Nicola, i love seeing your use of a completely diverse set of tools, I had reason about 10 years ago and somehow i dropped the ball, I notice you are using a minor scaling, it still sounds relatively abstracted and freeform, it possibly uses a different method to filter scales than Ableton. There are many variables. here is a new piece i recorded with a Dieffenbachia plant in Ableton. https://youtu.be/KchMjtMNVJQ .i mix related scales on the tracks, Incidentally i had noticed the structuring patterns of the notes also on the midi piano roll (ref another post) I understand completely your choice of Caustic for field recording, I use an Ipad in a Behringer istudio dock and n-track to record the midi, however there is no scaling in that software.
all the best Clive
PS. where did you get the electro clips? :)
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Hi Clive!

If i recall it was through Ebay, you can find a couple of deals there:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=electro+clips&_sacat=0

In regards DAW, to each his/her own. I can't let go of Propellerhead Reason for several reasons. The workflow in Reason fits me & i like to mess with signal routing, so therefore this is the perfect virtual environment to stay. As with Genre Ambient there are no rules set in stone. My intention with Plant based music is to define but also allow organic accidents in beautiful way. :)

And last but not least Caustic, ...as i don't have an Iphone i can't try Data Garden's App but one thing is certain, ...Caustic is also a choice for Sound design. As i said, there are limits if you review this from a spoiled perspective but overall it is a great App for Android & IOS.

Much Love
Nicola

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While midi is magical, you have to learn about specific programs in order to make music. Nicola is an amazing example of someone who is able to use Hardware synthesis and software synthesis at the same time.

I realize that musical instrument digital interface is the hardest part of this system for people. But making electronic music is extremely challenging. Making music with plants is actually quite easy, all you need is a biodata sonification interface.